The whole recap for Day 4 8:57 AM · The judge told the witness that his attorney had informed the court he intended to invoke his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent, and he said he understood. 8:58 AM · Thomas testified outside the jury's presence and stated his name as Theodore Thomas, spelling it for the court reporter. 8:58 AM · Judge Anyiam said the record would reflect that the proceedings were outside the presence of the jury. 8:59 AM · Thomas agreed he testified before a Dallas County grand jury on February 13, 2025, and said he did not recall who was present that day. 9:01 AM · The prosecutor showed Thomas State's Exhibit 1008, a 143-page grand jury transcript, and Thomas identified himself and two others among the names listed. 9:02 AM · The judge asked whether Mr. Thomas had been indicted for any matter relating to these cases, and the prosecutor said he was not indicted related to this case. 9:03 AM · Thomas said he would plead the Fifth when asked if he recalled testifying about people including Markies Conway, Jerry Johnson and Kiwan White. 9:06 AM · Thomas said he would plead the Fifth to questions about being in California with Conway in November 2020 and a conversation in Conway's Denali. 9:07 AM · Judge Anyiam told the state the witness appeared to be pleading the Fifth to all material questions and asked what the state wanted to do at that point. 9:08 AM · The prosecutor asked the court for one moment in response, and Judge Anyiam said yes. 9:09 AM · Thomas told the prosecutor he intended to invoke the Fifth on everything he testified to before the grand jury and on prior unsworn consistent statements. 9:09 AM · The defense asked Thomas whether he gave a recantation to Detective Barnes with his attorney present, and Thomas said he would plead the Fifth. 9:09 AM · The judge told Thomas he could step down, and the prosecutor asked that he not be released at that moment; the judge said that was correct. 9:10 AM · The judge told the witness's attorney to make sure his client remained in the courthouse in case he needed to take the stand again. 9:56 AM · The judge told the witness, outside the jury's presence, that the witness remained under oath and must return at nine the next morning with an attorney. 9:56 AM · The judge told the witness not to discuss the case with anyone or do social media research, and to return at nine AM with the witness's attorney. 9:56 AM · Bright told the judge that the client would be present the next morning and that Bright would discuss requisite matters with the client. 10:01 AM · The witness said she is a bondsman who worked at a bail bonds company in 2020 and that Dallas police asked for video and information on Kewon White. 10:05 AM · The prosecutor described 692 as a notice of intent to use business records for the videos, and the judge admitted 693 for record purposes. 10:05 AM · The prosecutor described 694 as a copy of the search warrant for the DVR videos and documents, and the judge admitted 694 for record purposes. 10:08 AM · The witness described State's Exhibit 691 as a payment history for Kewon White and said White owed 2,550 and paid 300 on November 11, 2020. 10:10 AM · The witness testified, based on the records, that White had not been making payments and had missed check-ins before his Nov. 11, 2020 in-person visit. 10:16 AM · The witness testified that it does not happen too often for customers to come in early and pay multiple weeks in advance. 10:18 AM · The witness said another employee, not she, gave a detective a business card with phone numbers and addresses for White. 10:22 AM · The witness agreed on cross that bringing cash to a bonding company is normal and that White's cash payment was a normal amount that was not exorbitant. 10:26 AM · The witness agreed on cross that nothing White did in making a payment on his bond account was unusual. 10:26 AM · The witness agreed on cross that the paperwork lacked Conway's name and White did not vouch for Conway or serve as his guarantor. 10:26 AM · The witness agreed that White did not vouch for Conway and was not listed as a guarantor for Conway on the paperwork. 10:27 AM · The witness agreed that none of the records the state brought had anything to do with Conway. 10:27 AM · Judge Anyiam told the witness, after neither side objected to release, that the witness was free to leave. 10:27 AM · The judge called for the state's next witness, and a lawyer told the court the state called Detective Abrams. 10:28 AM · Detective Norman Abrams of the Fort Worth Police Department homicide division identified himself and spelled his name for the court reporter. 10:28 AM · Norman Abrams, a detective, testified he worked this case as a DEA task force officer and cellphone downloader for the HIDTA group in Irving, Texas. 10:32 AM · Detective Abrams identified six phones by exhibit number and said he did extractions on them, at different levels but successfully. 10:35 AM · Judge Anyiam admitted State's Exhibits 737, 739, 741, 1152, 1153 and 1154, the phones, for all purposes after no objection was stated. 10:36 AM · Norman Abrams, a detective, described why extractions vary, citing whether a phone was locked or powered off and software needing to catch up with updates. 10:40 AM · Norman Abrams, a detective, testified he created an export containing everything and was not asked to decide which data was relevant. 10:46 AM · The defense had no questions for Norman Abrams, and the witness was released after neither side objected. 10:46 AM · The prosecutor asked the judge whether the lawyers could approach, and the judge said yes.
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